"willkinton247" (willkinton247)
04/04/2014 at 09:29 • Filed to: Volkswagen, Beigekrieg, Jetta | 8 | 58 |
The Volkswagen Jetta gets a lot of hate around here, with phrases like "Beigekrieg" and "your ex-girlfriend's car" getting thrown around quite a bit. People call it unreliable and underpowered, boring and low quality. Sure, most of it is directed at the Mk6 Jetta, but there is a lot of spill over into previous generations. After owning and daily driving a 2010 Jetta Limited for about a year, I think this car is the most underrated car VW has ever made, and that the Mk5 Jetta is worthy of your affection.
So what makes the Mk5 Jetta so special? Well, kids, sit around and let me list them off for you.
1.) It's an economy car
Back in 2010, the Jetta 2.5 Limited Edition (which is the one I have, and was only offered in 2010) had an MSRP of $18,295, and was priced and optioned in between the base S model and the SE model. This means it was priced to compete with the Mazda3 iTouring, Honda Civic LX-S, and the Toyota Corolla XLE, so I'll be comparing them accordingly.
2.) The Interior
The interior is pretty fantastic. The dash is full of soft-touch plastic. The steering wheel and shifter are both covered in leather. The leatherette seats are really comfortable, and they have pretty good bolstering, and really efficient heaters. The backseat doesn't have a huge amount of leg room, but my fiancé's six foot tall sister finds it comfortable once the front seat moves forward a bit. Having been in a Mazda3, a Civic, and a Corolla the Jetta interior is far more upscale. In the comparable trim levels of the Jetta's rivals, you're stuck with manually adjustable cloth seats without lumbar support and in the Civic and Mazda3 you get no heated seats. The Jetta clearly had the best interior you can buy at that price point.
For the 2010 model year only, you got an updated instrument panel, center stack, and steering wheel that looks very modern and much nicer than the previous year. The picture above is a couple of trim levels up from my interior, so I don't have the navigation, the buttons on the steering wheel, or the sunroof, but you'll get the idea.
3.) The Engine
The VW 2.5L I5 catches a lot of crap. People claim that it was underpowered and a generally terrible engine, but it does put out 170 HP @ 5,700 rpm in the 2010 model (up from the 150 in the original model year). This gets you to 60 mph in around 8.5 seconds, which is not bad at all, especially since you only get 132 HP @ 6,000 rpm in the Corolla, 140 HP @ 6,300 rpm in the Civic, and 148 HP @ 6,500 rpm in the Mazda3. The I5 also produces more torque at a lower RPM than the three Japanese competitors. It also has a surprisingly nice exhaust note, which some people owe to the fact that it shares cylinder heads with the Lamborghini Gallardo. You also get to tell people that you have a 5-cylinder engine.
4.) It has a Multi-Link Independent Rear Suspension
The Mk5 was actually the first Jetta to receive this major handling upgrade. It was actually very similar to the one found in the widely acclaimed Euro-spec Ford Focus. It's actually rumored that VW hired the Ford Engineers who designed the Focus's suspension to design the Jetta's. The result is better handling, while maintaining comfort. I can confirm this; the car feels planted on the road, and has a surprising amount of grip when attacking interstate on-ramps. It just keeps sticking and sticking and sticking. Of its rivals, only the Mazda3 had this option.
Unfortunately, in 2011, the MKVI took over on a newish platform, which was essentially a lengthened version of the previous PQ35 platform. This resulted in a platform Volkswagen decreased the price of the Jetta to better take on the Civic and the Corolla, which involved several drastic cost cutting measures. The Jetta lost its Multi-Link Independent Rear Suspension, which was replaced by a cheaper solid rear axle. Due to the backlash, VW has started to put the MLIRS in the top of the line GLI and SEL Premium trim levels, but any trim lower is stuck with the cheaper option.
5.) The Automatic Transmission
When I bought this car I looked for a manual. I swear. I couldn't find one, and I needed a new car, so I got the Automatic. But the six-speed automatic is actually pretty clever. It learns how you drive, and then adjusts to match. For me it means it revs through the lower gears pretty quickly and sharply to get up to speed before it settles into the higher gears. When my fiancé borrows my car, it adapts to her driving style which is a lazy acceleration to no higher than 2500 rpm, with easy, smooth shifts. This means that when she gives it back, it's weird for a couple of minutes while it figures out how I want to drive.
There is also a Sport mode that actually changes the feel of the car completely. It basically keeps the car in a gear lower so you have more power on hand when you want it, and it increases throttle response a bit more. The car does feel more "sporty" when it is engaged.
The only complaint I have is with the Tiptronic shifter. In order to shift up, you push forwards, and pull back to shift down. It's completely backwards. You should pull back to shift up, and push forward to shift down, in agreement with the G-forces of acceleration.
6.) 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
The Mk5 Jetta had disc brakes behind every wheel at all trim levels, unlike the current Mk6, and unlike the Civic and the Corolla. They grab well, and confidently, even if the ABS does kick in fairly early in inclement weather.
7.) The Headlights
The Halogens have little VWs in them! How cool is that?
8.) The Stability Control can be turned off. Completely.
When the Mk6 came out, you were completely unable to turn off the ESP, and now you can only partially turn it off. It'll still kick in when you get a little wild. This is not the case on the Mk5, where you can totally defeat it.
9.) It's an Beast in the Snow
I have never driven a car that seems as planted in the snow as the Mk5 Jetta, and my previous car was a Subaru Outback. The Jetta is entirely predictable, relays road conditions to your butt and your hands, and when you do reach the limit, you'll understeer in a very predictable fashion. Unless you pull the handbrake, at which point it will rotate very easily. You also get heated door mirrors.
10.) Toys
For a car that stickered under $20K, it is remarkably well equipped. It has a 30 pin plug for an iPod or an iPhone 4S and earlier (which is actually kind of annoying when you have an iPhone 5, but hey, can't really fault them for that), Blueteeth, and a pretty good sound system.
11.) It's Really Freaking Clever
This is where the Volkswagen shines. I mean really shines. It is filled with tiny little features that were probably never advertised, and you never really realize that they are there until you own one for a while. These little things show that the engineers were really thinking about little things, and that's a nice thing to be reminded of. You may not even be aware of these in your VW. Other cars may have some or most of these features, but they're still really neat to see in an economy car.
The VW Jetta is the only gas powered car I know of that has an electric resistance heater to supplement a standard heating system (if you know any others, let me know!). This allows you to start heating your car up well before the engine gets up to running temperature. You can turn this heater on by turning the climactic heater control to 80, at which point you will feel a small click, and the heater will start blowing warm air before the temperature gauge moves. This was absolutely fantastic when the thermometer was reading 4.
Speaking of heaters, you know how in most cars your right foot gets really warm and your left stays chilly when the footwell heater is on? This is because the heating vent is usually just a hole in the center stack that ends up being blocked by your right foot. Well, the engineers at VW fixed this problem in the Jetta. The heater vent is in spread out above your feet, spreading nice, warm air equally over both of your feet, which is very, very nice.
Another cool feature is the intermittent windshield wipers. When you have the windshield wipers on and come to a stop, the wipers will slow down so they're not going hog wild when you don't need them. On the manufacturing side, if you get a big ding in your door, you can easily put a new exterior door panel on it, making repair cheaper.
See how the cup holder has two normal holes, and then one little one in the middle? That middle one is made for a skinny Red Bull can, or other drinks that may be too small for the normal cup holders.
The Jetta also has some pretty clever interior lighting features. If you don't have your lights on, instrument panel will be backlit if it detects sunlight. If it does not detect sunlight, it will dim those lights down to zero, making them harder to see. This feature subconsciously reminds you to turn your lights on. When you do turn your lights on, it illuminates the dash, and the controls are lit up in red and blue. There are also two little red LEDs in the overhead console that bathes the cupholders and center console in a soft red glow, making it easier to see things without ruining your nightvision.
All in all, the Mk5 Jetta is a clever car. It's a good car, and worthy of respect.
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Tom McParland
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:34 | 5 |
The MKV was a good car, it was made at a time when VW offered a compact a cut above the beige boxes of Honda and Toyota. Sure you paid a little more for it but if had to have some "German engineering" and couldn't afford the usual luxury players this Jetta was quite nice. Especially and with the TDI or 2.0T motor. I would love to find a MKV Sportwagen SEL with the 2.0T and 6-speed.
JR1
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:41 | 0 |
I've always heard maintaining a VW is an expensive task compared to Japanese/Americans cars. Is that true? Does this cost more?
offroadkarter
> JR1
04/04/2014 at 09:47 | 1 |
its European, default answer of - yes
willkinton247
> JR1
04/04/2014 at 09:50 | 3 |
It is, because they are much more "high strung." You've got to make sure you're using the right oil and filters, and you've got to treat them right. Everyone who complains about reliability probably is treating them like a Corolla or a Civic. The trade off is that they feel more solid at high speeds than their Asian/American equivalents. 80 feels not much different than 50, unlike their counterparts from other markets.
But it's not just a VW thing, German cars in general are built to this standard, so a VW is cheap to maintain for a German car.
Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:51 | 4 |
I think you'll find very few on here who will refer to MkV VWs as part of the beigekrieg. That's a term applied almost strictly to what they've done from MkVI on.
Jon-o
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:52 | 1 |
Agreed very nice cars, 3 of my roomates from university own VW's a 2005 2.5 Jetta, a 2004 Jetta TDI (which still stands up great considering it almost has 300,00 KMS) and a 2012 Golf 2.5. I myself am stuck in my old car I've had since highschool but want a MK6 GTI one day.
As for the electric heater it seems to be a German car thing, My parents both have BMW 335i's and you press the "Rest" button on them and the heater runs while the engine is off, nice feature though and for a car at that price
crown victor victoria
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:56 | 1 |
This feature subconsciously reminds you to turn your lights on
What kills me about VWs (from MKIV forward, AFAIK) is that your "lights" are always on regardless. Unless you've installed a euroswitch, your headlights just run all the time, albeit at like 70% brightness, as DRLs. So really your headlights are either "on" or "More On" and there's no way to turn them completely off.
Do the MKVs also have all 1-touch up/down windows? That was another thing I like about my car. But the non-leather wrapped steering wheels are hell.
offroadkarter
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 09:57 | 0 |
the only experience I have with the MKV jetta is the 2010 SE one of my friends owns. He got it with 20k something on it and now it has around 40k.
Things that are good:
engine noise
interior better than others in class
drives fine
one of the faster cars in its class
Things that are not good:
so far in 40k miles the center console lid broke, I believe at least one of the dash vents broke, and the knock sensor tripped last week. Why? No idea.
The airbox design is so ****ing stupid. An airbox/engine cover combo? Genius VW, Genius.
Still very slow, my friend swears his 2000 explorer V8 with 192k+ miles on it would lay waste to his jetta.
Reliability will inevitably go to hell eventually, its a VW after all. His sisters MK4 jetta was a complete turd by the time they got rid of it.
Final verdict: Its a car
Here is his jetta on the way home from picking up my 745i in Maryland.
willkinton247
> crown victor victoria
04/04/2014 at 09:58 | 1 |
Yeah, you get 4 1-touch up/down windows. And the leather wrapped steering wheels are pretty great.
JR1
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 10:04 | 0 |
I think that will always be VWs biggest problem the cost/benefit for most buyers just isn't there. But I do recognize they are good cars and sharing engine components with a Gallardo is pretty cool.
awe46m3zcp
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 10:30 | 2 |
I've been saying cars need electric heating elements for a while now. I didn't know there was any (other than full electric cars) that had one, and I don't understand why it hasn't caught on. When it's -15 here, and your car was parked outside all night it can take 30 mins to become comfortable. A small heating element would make the first 10 mins more bearable. It would be even more awesome if it could be started remotely, with the fan set to recirculate as it's against the law to let your car warm up here. It would need to be smart enough to monitor the battery, so it doesn't drain it to the point your car won't start.
Reigntastic
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 10:52 | 3 |
I daily drove an MKV Jetta Wolfsburg Edition with the 2.0T and 6 speed manual. Such a great car, that my only complaint is that it is front wheel drive. Incredible interior, awesome audio system, and the best media display I've ever used.
The car hauled ass, got excellent highway mileage, and could burnout from second gear at a roll. I thoroughly enjoyed eating front tires with it.
Reigntastic
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 11:42 | 1 |
Just found a picture of the Jetta I used to drive.
willkinton247
> Reigntastic
04/04/2014 at 11:42 | 0 |
alas, Kinja.
Reigntastic
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 11:43 | 1 |
Should be fixed now.
gabdere
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 12:03 | 1 |
"It is filled with tiny little features that were probably never advertised, and you never really realize that they are there until you own one for a while. These little things show that the engineers were really thinking about little things, and that's a nice thing to be reminded of."
This sums up Volkswagen actually.
I think it's funny that your car handles well in snow. My MK5 Rabbit (which was lowered) was the biggest POS in snow. It would all add up in the wheel well and shake like everything's gonna come off. My Mk5 GTI isn't really better, but snow has a tendency of adding up in the suspension creating shakiness.
Other than that, the traction control could be completely turned off in the Rabbit (ASR) and not in the GTI (ESP).
I think that the MK6 is still a pretty decent car. Fine, I was the first one to be completely disappointed when they announced it but now I realized it makes sense. You still have a lot of "tiny little features" that you don't know of in the most basic $15k trim.
Method82
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 12:55 | 1 |
I wonder if i have that in my MKV GTI...
Stef Schrader
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 13:53 | 3 |
#8 should be the case on every car ever made. My Lancer's like this. I love that.
These were great little cars. The interior feels WAY nicer than you'd expect in a car of that price. The Mk6 was the huge leap backwards.
willkinton247
> Stef Schrader
04/04/2014 at 14:30 | 2 |
It's essentially from the same parts bins that so many fantastic Audi interiors came out of. It's essentially a 1.8 A4 for someone who can't afford one.
Also, the Bentley continental has the same temp. and fuel gauges as my Jetta.
WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
> willkinton247
04/04/2014 at 23:55 | 0 |
Don't forget the ultimate VW/German car feature.....The 3 pulse turn signal.
PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
> willkinton247
04/05/2014 at 01:02 | 1 |
Can I say, as a person whose mom has a
really
early MKVI Jetta 2.5 SE, it makes me jealous to hear of all the cool stuff you have. rear discs, IRS, better interior...
And to think, when we bought our jetta, there was an '09 SEL with 21,000 miles on it, for 19.5K AT THE SAME DEALERSHIP AS THE PLACE WHERE MY MOM GOT HER MKVI FOR 21.8K!!!
willkinton247
> WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
04/05/2014 at 01:41 | 0 |
oh man yes. It makes driving other cars seem...primitive.
PyramidHat
> WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
04/06/2014 at 18:23 | 0 |
3-pulse turn signal?
AthomSfere
> willkinton247
04/10/2014 at 21:26 | 0 |
I just want to say, that engine is pretty sad...
170hp out of 2.5 is not good. Looking at Honda their 06 Civic w/ 140hp that carried through 10 and later laid down 8- 8.5 depending on source times. Flatter curve I guess...?
And the Si @ 2L was 197 horses.
VW could have done better there... That is all. (Also, unrelated as I tried to be impartial... Not a VW fan, mostly because they aren't comfortable for me with weird angles for stuff, and unreliable... plus IMO ugly/ boring)
Spasoje
> willkinton247
04/10/2014 at 23:08 | 0 |
Honestly, the only thing wrong with the mkV Jetta was that it was visually horrible for a Jetta. It was a totally solid car in every single other context.
MRMESQ
> willkinton247
04/10/2014 at 23:49 | 0 |
I have the 2009 SE model. At the price point it was absolutely the best value for the money. I had no intention of buying a VW, but I've been Rey pleasantly surprised with it, and it beats the hell out of the Corolla.
mattmangrease
> crown victor victoria
04/11/2014 at 07:23 | 1 |
I recently purchased a MK6 Golf (2012), and the DRLs are actually a different set of lights. The main headlights are on the outer edge of the car, the DRLs are smaller and towards the center.
willkinton247
> Spasoje
04/11/2014 at 07:57 | 0 |
Yeah, it did have a lot of soft lines, but it wasn't as beige as some other ones.
AnotherHobby
> Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
04/11/2014 at 08:46 | 1 |
Agreed... not counting the MkVI GTI and Golf R.
crown victor victoria
> mattmangrease
04/11/2014 at 10:04 | 0 |
Yeah you're right. It's a better setup than what they did on the MKIV, which is what I described above. And there's still no way to shut off the DRLs with the stock headlight controls.
MichaelD
> willkinton247
04/11/2014 at 10:23 | 1 |
My wife has a 2009 Jetta S that we bought for her last February. It's a seriously nice car, full of thoughtful touches and good attention to detail, and seems to be better-built than my early-production 2012 Focus SEL.
MichaelD
> awe46m3zcp
04/11/2014 at 10:27 | 0 |
I've been saying cars need electric heating elements for a while now. I didn't know there was any (other than full electric cars) that had one, and I don't understand why it hasn't caught on. When it's -15 here, and your car was parked outside all night it can take 30 mins to become comfortable. A small heating element would make the first 10 mins more bearable.
This. So very much this. I have to park my car outside, and winter commutes — especially morning commutes — are seriously unpleasant for me because of the time it takes for the engine to finally heat up enough to make some warmth for the HVAC system.
GoPadge
> AthomSfere
04/11/2014 at 11:19 | 0 |
I have a MKIII Jetta with a 2.slow. With 114hp, it totally sucks on a 0-60. But it's damn near bullet proof on a reliability standpoint. I've got over 300,000 miles on mine and the car's been driven through 25 states.
GoPadge
> WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
04/11/2014 at 11:20 | 0 |
With VAG-Com you can change that from 1 to 5 pulses.
TomMetcalf
> willkinton247
04/11/2014 at 11:34 | 1 |
I have a MKV GLI and I love the way it drives. You are right about it being a beast in the snow. I have a good set of winter tires on it and it just goes. The GLI also has the trick locking differential, the 2.0T, and a 6 speed manual.
I love the car and the way it drives. My only gripe is repair costs.
willkinton247
> TomMetcalf
04/11/2014 at 12:12 | 1 |
It really does handle well. I have a pretty new set of all seasons, and it still gets pretty good traction. It's just so predictable.
AthomSfere
> GoPadge
04/11/2014 at 16:25 | 0 |
There are always exceptions... Take the "bulletproof" Toyotas too, there are lemons for sure. But VW hasn't earned a reputation for unreliable for no reason.
GoPadge
> AthomSfere
04/11/2014 at 16:50 | 1 |
Ah, but in my case I've abused the hell out of the car. Other than oil changes, I've only fix things when they broke. So it's not a pampered car by any means. And at least 125,000 of those miles were stop and go traffic in Boston and Dallas. (It's the car equivalent of 80's rocker having clear lungs and a functioning liver.)
AthomSfere
> GoPadge
04/11/2014 at 18:42 | 0 |
And livving past his 20's with an OD really...
But yea, oil changes go a long way! I was tempted to buy the wife a VW in '08 for the annual fire sale (the next model year was on the lot and lasts year still unsold).
I have never owned a German car but always heard about the German curse, some are solid others are lemons and there is no in between. So I decided to do some research and what I saw was bad, bad, bad. I am used to people complaining, but never so consistently about reliability.
Maybe we would have lucked out, but it wasn't worth the risk. So I bought her a Honda Fit instead, and then a Hyundai Sonata because the fit can't hold a rear facing car seat! Fit the big kid fine, fit me fine...
Now, if VW can ever sell another excites me... I might consider them again. At least long enough to see how far their reliability has come at that time. And for me, a tarted up Golf doesn't cut it.
SpontaneouslyCombustible
> willkinton247
04/13/2014 at 20:59 | 0 |
I have a sneaking suspicion that "high strung" personality is why so many are prone to overheating. Wondering if the standard green 50/50 coolant most people(Myself included, even though I know better. I'm working on it...) would throw straight in to their VW (a mk2 in my case) accelerates the wear/destruction of plastic components in the cooling system.
That's been on my mind a lot lately, since I've had to replace a flange, bypass my heater core, and now replace my radiator in the last month.
Steven Carter
> AthomSfere
07/01/2014 at 18:14 | 0 |
The 08 Jetta GLI got 200HP from its 2.0T inline four. And combined with the clever suspension it will glide past that Civic SI that has half of the doors. Another cool feature of my 08 is that it puts the AC on recirculating while the windshield washers are on so that you don't smell anything if you are one of those old-fashioned people that puts vinegar in their washer bottles.
AthomSfere
> Steven Carter
07/01/2014 at 20:19 | 0 |
3hp difference with a turbo, not impressive. Also my Si has 4 doors and only cost it about 60lbs, not bad...
The both have great suspension, and LSD. I would give the Si the advantage with its flatter curves and lighter weight (~500lbs I believe on the GLI).
Chris
> willkinton247
09/16/2014 at 10:16 | 1 |
Late to the party here, I know, but I wanted to chime in and say that I have the 2010 Jetta Limited (MKV) and I absolutely love it. It's capable, comfortable, fun to drive, and all the little perks mentioned in this article only make it more better to drive and own. 38k miles on my (very fun) 2.5L's clock so far, and many to go. I would recommend installing a VW touchscreen head unit (mine didn't come with one), which really completes the solid feeling this car exudes. This is only my second car, but it will definitely keep me in the VAG (Volkswagen Auto Group) family. Thanks for the write-up!
willkinton247
> Chris
09/16/2014 at 10:19 | 1 |
Thanks for your kind words! It really is a fantastic car, and I wouldn't hesitate recommending it to anyone. I have also thought about installing a touchscreen, but I just can't afford that right now.
Chris
> willkinton247
09/16/2014 at 13:43 | 0 |
If you're on VWVortex, you can get an RCD-510 (non-nav touchscreen unit) for $300-350. The install is insanely easy, as is getting an Aux in - the parts for which are $14 at most. If you're lucky you can also find a 9W7 bluetooth to stream music to the RCD-510 for <$100, and install that yourself in two minutes. A little easy re-wiring based on forums and diagrams and you'll be golden, adding quite a lot of value to your MKV.
Jezza
> AthomSfere
10/30/2014 at 23:01 | 0 |
BAD news gli/gti are faster as they make torque from 2000rpm all the way to 5500rpm. and your si makes a peak torque at 9million rpmthus making the gti/gli faster than your civic. a new tune will net the turbo 60hp. your civic can never do that ;)
AthomSfere
> Jezza
10/31/2014 at 07:12 | 0 |
Your paper racing... but faster by like .2s to 60 isn't significantly faster...
On the tune, you are right though. But if an economical tune / mod car is your goal why not get the much better WRX for less? Better being subjective, but faster, better heritage...
Jezza
> AthomSfere
11/04/2014 at 02:58 | 0 |
Faster is faster no? :P
I own a 2.5 myself. But on to my point.
You can't compare a "sports car" to an "economy" car. That's why i stated the gli/gti being a better comparison(was my intention, why i added tuning it not sure. You might have said something about your car having an intake :S not really wanting to go back and forth for an internet conversation between two random people). But the reason the base model civic is faster to 60 is purely based on weight. the jetta is about 3300lbs compared to the 2800lbs civic. But continue that on a quarter mile I beat my friend everytime(he has R18 06 civic intake only. I had an intake as well). But alas we are comparing two automakers who in a constant fight with each other. But a wrx being cheaper? Its not from my research. But i am sure different countries different prices.
But if your ever in southern Ontario hit me up we'll grab a beer.
AthomSfere
> Jezza
11/04/2014 at 07:06 | 0 |
I wasn't talking about the R18, but the k20/ k24 in the newer Si. Yes its a lighter car, and I would classify the Si and GTI/ GLI all as sporty (although not sports cars).
Price, its only maybe $1000 difference ($26,500 GLI/ WRX $25,500) but the WRX also will depreciate much, much slower.
And... And... Not feeling argumentative from you or I. Just two enthusiasts who like to talk shop. I can't see myself ever in Onatario (too far north to be a destination spot for me) but I love beer! If it ever worked out that way though, or you stranded in Kansas a beer would be great.
Jezza
> AthomSfere
11/04/2014 at 13:04 | 1 |
I mention the R18 as it is a better comparison for the 2.5l.Both base model engines.
But on the wrx and gli prices are much different in the states as I've seen you are correct but for me they are 28290 for the GLI, 31275 for the edition 30 GLI and 32495 for the WRX. all 2014 models. But yeah why does Canada get hosed here on the prices.... friggin corporations.
deutschophile85
> willkinton247
09/04/2015 at 15:34 | 1 |
I love my MKV. I really do. At the time of my purchase, it was CHEAPER than a Honda/Toyota with more features and a better fit and finish. The problem I have with the car is the 2.5L engine. The power of 4 banger with the fuel economy of a 6 cylinder. To make up for that: It is reliable. Full stop reliable. Sure, the fuse box got a TSP, but after the service I haven’t had an electrical issue since.
Austin
> willkinton247
02/19/2016 at 11:31 | 0 |
I have the Limited Edition 2010 Jetta 2.5 and haven’t been able to find much on the internet about it until now. Do you still own yours?
Austin
> Chris
02/19/2016 at 11:33 | 0 |
I have the Limited Edition 2010 jetta as well. Do you still own yours?
willkinton247
> Austin
02/19/2016 at 13:29 | 0 |
I literally just signed the title of it over to it’s new owner a few hours ago.
Chris
> Austin
02/19/2016 at 14:09 | 0 |
Not anymore. Traded it in last May for a 2014 Audi A5 :)
moizblog
> willkinton247
05/03/2016 at 01:22 | 0 |
We bought an MK5 Jetta TDI manual for our college bound son. The car has only 25k miles on it. I tell you the car looks and feels premium, and is really a drivers car. The shifter/clutch response is very sporty and smooth, and the lower end torque of the diesel literally eats up the tires. All this, and it did better than our Prius on a recent 400-mile trip.
The only complain is that the blue tooth in our model is voice only so we can’t play music, and there is no 30-pin connector as mentioned above. Maybe a connector can be easily added, or blue tooth upgraded.
willkinton247
> moizblog
05/03/2016 at 08:14 | 0 |
It is actually pretty easy to upgrade the MK5 Jetta audio systems, you just have to look. I was considering putting the radio from the SEL in there.
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> willkinton247
01/29/2017 at 00:58 | 1 |
I’m glad to present you my mkv Sport Model, the car of my dream, all i,ve specting in a car, great post!